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Mike Miller has been NBCSports.com's college basketball editor since 2003. It's a position he relishes; no wonder considering he transferred to Kansas to watch Paul Pierce play. Most of his favorite sports memories involve college hoops, usually during March, when every waking moment is spent thinking about March Madness.



Is the WCC better than the Missouri Valley?

Posted: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:15 PM
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Finals week always creates a dearth of college basketball games. So it’s nice when you get a game like St. Mary’s vs. Southern Illinois. (Added bonus: The Gaels entered the game ranked No. 1 in kenpom.com’s RPI.)

It’s one of those matchups that help burnish a mid-major’s résumé for March and gives the rest of us an idea of just how good some of the elite teams from different conferences compare. The Gaels and Gonzaga are the cream of the West Coast Conference, which has never been seen as the Missouri Valley’s equal because it doesn’t have the same overall depth, or much recent success in the NCAA Tournament.

But does it two teams just as good as the best in the MVC? That’s possible.

St. Mary’s has already beaten Oregon, San Diego State and Drake (6-1), one of the Mo Valley’s surprise teams thus far, while the Zags have wins over UConn, St. Joe’s, Virginia Tech and Western Kentucky, another solid mid-major team.

Those wins gave the league two ranked teams for the first time since 1973-74 and are enough to pose the question about the Missouri Valley’s best teams. (Entering Tuesday’s games, the leagues were ranked eighth and ninth in conference RPI, .5501 to .5401. The WCC’s ranking is driven entirely from the top two, however. All but two MVC teams are ranked higher than Pepperdine, the WCC’s third-highest team.)

And what’s up next for the WCC’s best?

The Gaels’ lone marquee game remaining is a Jan. 5 trip to Texas. After that, the only thing that will impress observers – besides blowout victories – is beating Gonzaga once or twice.

As for the Zags, they have non-conference BCS games remaining against Memphis, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Utah and Georgia. Beating Saint Mary’s would be nice – and go a long way toward winning another league title – but it’s not a necessity.

Now, whether all that makes the WCC better than the MVC is up for debate. Thus far, I’d call it a toss-up, with things likely to turn to the MVC’s favor as the season wears on. The Salukis’ home win on Tuesday already started that ball rolling.

(For what it’s worth, Kyle Whelliston just moved Saint Mary’s into his top mid-major rankings, but that’ll likely change now. He doesn’t consider the Zags, who are 7th overall, a mid-major. Drake is the highest MVC team at No. 25. SIU is 111.)

I suppose the argument won’t be settled without more head-to-head matchups, and even then they’d need to be on a neutral court. (SIU is 80-5 at home since 2001-02.) It feels like the Big 12-SEC argument in football. Does having a few elite teams make a league better than having a deeper, tougher conference?

After all, how would Gonzaga fare by playing in the Valley each season?

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Are you kidding?  Your own point about every team in the MVC being higher than Pepperdine in the RPI answers your own question.
I would favor the resumes of the MVC teams historically, but the WCC has been Gonzaga and the 7 dwarves, which includes Saint Mary's until they win the WCC, are growing and have some very talented freshman making an impact in the non-conference games. So stay tuned to see if overall the WCC can elipse the depth and consistency of the MVC, and this March, hopefully two teams (SMC and GU) will be dancing and going deeper than ever before and eclipse the MVC in terms of post season success. But, look for USD, Santa Clara and Pepperdine all to be knocking on the door in the 2-3 year time frame as they all have new coaches who are hungry to make a statement in their first head coaching job in the D-I level.
MJ '87 www.GodisaGael.com
The WCC has been lopsided for some time.  Year in year out, Gonzaga has been better than any MVC team but several MVC teams have been usually better than the next best WCC team.  Now St. Mary's has joined Gonzaga at the WCC top but the rest of the conference is not having a great start to this season.  Meanwhile several MVC teams are looking good, most surprisingly Drake.  So this year, it's definitely the MVC.  The RPI is not the best measure of this either, one of the other computer rankings is generally more accurate.  According to TeamRankings.com, last year the MVC was only superseded by the BCS conferences and not by much.  They were ahead of the Mountain West, Conference USA, WAC, and Atlantic 10 as well as the WCC.  I expect pretty much of the same this year.


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