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Mike Miller

Mike Miller has been msnbc.com's college basketball editor since 2003. It's a position he relishes; no wonder considering he transferred to Kansas to watch Paul Pierce play. Most of his favorite sports memories involve college hoops, usually during March, when every waking moment is spent thinking about March Madness.



Vandy's big win won't mean a March run

Posted: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:54 PM
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Big wins like Vanderbilt’s force a re-thinking of one’s hoop perceptions.

So I thought more about the Commodores last night, slept on it, did more research this morning and here’s my verdict:

This isn’t the year Vandy breaks through to the Elite Eight, let alone the Final Four.

Vandy (24-4) has two elite players and is doesn’t lose at home. That’s generally not enough to win three NCAA Tournament games, let alone four.

Lunardi’s latest bracket has the Commodores as a 5 seed, which seems about right. They close out their season with three more wins and a couple in the SEC Tournament, they could snag a three seed. They’ve been once (1993) since the tournament expanded to 64 teams, and that didn’t result in an Elite Eight.

(That Elite Eight spot is important because Vandy is usually good for the Sweet 16. Since 88, it’s been to the tourney seven times, and have been to the Sweet 16 four of those times, including in 2004 and last year. But never an Elite Eight.)

This year isn’t that much different. Vandy has piled up wins, but until last night its biggest wins were against South Alabama and UMass. Blame a weak SEC, but when you’re 4-4 on the road and your two neutral court wins are against Bradley and Utah State, it doesn’t inspire confidence for a deep March run.

Need numbers? Vandy is fourth among SEC teams in efficiency margin. The Commodores are great from beyond the arc, but are a good, not great offensive team (37th in adjusted offensive efficiency). The defense is below average, if not downright bad. They don’t force many turnovers, don’t rebound or block many shots.

Essentially, this post from more than a month ago isn’t that far off.

BUT… they’re good in the clutch. Shan Foster and A.J. Ogilvy (when he’s on the court) are among the nation’s best 1-2 combinations behind Eric Gordon and D.J. White, and Michael Beasley and Bill Walker. And when Vandy’s in the tourney, they’re playing during that second week.

Yet, when you limit Foster or Ogilvy and Vandy is vulnerable. Take away both players and the result is four losses in a five-game stretch. And that doesn’t cut it in March.

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I'm a die-hard Vandy fan and I think you are right on here.  If Stallings will stick around, we might just get to the Final Four one day.  Wins like last night on ESPN, showing the magic of Memorial Gym and the student-athlete Vandy approach (vs. the other way around) will help with recruiting and (let's hope) trickle into the football program's status as well!  Go 'Dores!!!
Vanderbilt 93 - Kentucky 0. Just a slight exaggeration. Vanderbilt 72 - #1 ranked Tennessee 69. This is a top 10 team and deserves at least a #3 seed. It is great to see real students beat the mercenaries. There are no players at Vandy whose PPG is higher than their SAT's or ACT's.
Hey Mike, I respect your opinion and analysis of Vandy, however, I think you're dead wrong. I don't see how you can say Vandy is not an Elite 8 team without seeing who they will be matched up against. Let's assume that Vandy stumbles somewhat to close the regular season and in the SEC tourny and end up a 6 seed in the NCAA. Now let's realistically assume that someone like Purdue or Indiana ends up a 3 seed and Georgetown ends up a 2 seed. Now let's put all three in the same region and assume that the 2 and 3 seeded teams win until they face Vandy. Can you honestly say that Vandy on a neutral floor couldn't be Purdue and or Indiana as a 3 seed and then Georgetown as a 2 to make it to the Elite 8. I don't think you can assume that.


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