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Mike Miller

Mike Miller has been NBCSports.com's college basketball editor since 2003. It's a position he relishes; no wonder considering he transferred to Kansas to watch Paul Pierce play. Most of his favorite sports memories involve college hoops, usually during March, when every waking moment is spent thinking about March Madness.



Greatest players lists may never change

Posted: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:50 PM
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Now that ESPN announced Oscar Robertson as No. 2 on their 25 Greatest Players in College Basketball, there’s no doubt Lew Alcindor’s No 1.

Was there ever any doubt?

Their final list was different from mine (with a slightly different order while Bill Bradley and Jerry West replacing Scott May and Danny Manning), but overall there’s not much to disagree about. Alcindor and Bill Walton, for both their individual accomplishments and NCAA Tournament dominance, will always be regarded as two of the game’s best. The on-court brilliance of Robertson and Pistol Pete also make them top 5 locks.

And while I’ll disagree with their final list a bit (as do others, particularly when it comes to omitting players from the south and the heartland), it seems strange to think that no player from the last 20 years was higher than 12 on ESPN’s list. There were only five from the last 25.

The college game hasn’t produced a recent player who could be considered among the all-time greats? Really? The modern game lacks any elite players?

We may bemoan today’s game because the best players rarely stay four years or they rely only on their athleticism, but someone – even if it’s Christian Laettner, perhaps the most reviled player of the last 20 years – has to rate.

(I had Laettner behind Manning on my list, but even the Laettner haters have to give the guy his due. Winning back-to-back titles is a rare feat and he was the game’s best all-around player his junior and senior seasons. Hate him if you like, but respect the game.)

It makes me wonder if someone like Tyler Hansbrough – already a two-time All-American and headed for his third honor this season – stays all four seasons at North Carolina and wins an NCAA Tournament could make us re-think our rankings. Time would burnish Hansbrough’s accomplishments and reputation, which would boost him up lists like these, possibly into the top 15.

I’m probably dreaming. Even if Hansbrough did get that high, it’d be the rare exception in a game where the best players stay one or two years, then bolt for the NBA.

Players like Glenn Robinson, Elton Brand or Kevin Durant don’t leave a lasting legacy like the ones in ESPN’s top 25. Those guys all left before their junior seasons and would’ve been likely candidates to etch their names in our collective memory.

That’s what three straight titles or an 88-game win streak will do. After all, who could one ever top those?

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As a Purdue grad, I'll admit that I'm biased, but no Glenn Robinson on that list?  No Rick Mount?????  Seriously?  Leaving Mount off the list is a bigger injustice than leaving Big Dog out.
I'm a Purdue grad as well and what hurt Robinson's case is that he essentially played only 2 years!  The fact that he's still in the conversation says a lot about his game! I saw him play at the Co-Rec a few times...sick!!!!
L-A-R-R-Y J-O-H-N-S-O-N.....when will Grandmama get her due?  Larry wants his, as Mike Wilbon calls it, his DAP.  

Go Rebs.
HOW ABOUT ALEX GROZA-2 TIME NCAA MVP FROM KY.
I thought the same thing ... no Rick Mount?  To quote John McEnroe ... "YOU CAN NOT BE SERIOUS!"  I can not explain that.

Otherwise, my only real problems with this would be MJ at 13.  He played 3 years ... was surrounded by awesome teammates and came up rather small in his last two tournaments.  I don't see MJ - the college player - as being No. 13.  I even see him as a marginal a top 25 college guy, and certainly behind Ewing.  

And the other "say what?" would be Bob Kurkland. I'd replace either of those with Mount.  And you can throw in Grandmama too.  I loved him (and her!) for that matter.  

As for Big Dog ... great player ... but not enough time on campus.  If you go to two-year guys, Isiah Thomas and a few other North Carolina greats beat him out easily because they won National Championships.  (Yes ... Championships do matter in short careers!)
What? ESPN is biased toward the ACC? WHAT???
ESPN just likes to stroke its ego with these lists anyway - making news instead of covering it. ESPN has already tainted sports journalism and they're doing a good job of ruining sports period.
I agree about the lists and how sometime's ESPN takes it over the top with these things. But my favorite sport to watch is college basketball and besides December(Christmas), March(Madness) is my favorite month of the year. But this list is good at best. I mean if you put some of those guys from back then and had them play now, they'd look foolish. Imagine Bill Walton trying to bang inside with some of the Big East big guys. He'd get creamed. I think that if you are going to create an overall greatest players of all time list. You can't just say that,"For thier time they were great." You have to say the best ever. I'll take Jay Williams(Duke) over Jerry West. No disrespect to Jerry West. But there's not a chance in hell that his all around game would be able to compete in the ACC for a national title.
Where is Jimmy Walker...???
Best of many others in the top ten
hope you re-consider
To Marcus:  Don't tell me Bill Walton would get "creamed" if he played in the Big East today!  The great ones adapt, and Walton was one of the greatest to play the college game.  He would learn quickly what he could get away with, just as players today have done.
"The college game hasn’t produced a recent player who could be considered among the all-time greats? Really? The modern game lacks any elite players?"


That's because everyone was leaving from high school to the draft

imagine Lebron, Kobe, Garnett, Dwight Hoawrd. if they played four years.

Since the rule changed we may see more legends. but that may only produce one-and-done players

but hansborugh is one of the greatest.


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