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Mike Miller

Mike Miller has been msnbc.com's college basketball editor since 2003. It's a position he relishes; no wonder considering he transferred to Kansas to watch Paul Pierce play. Most of his favorite sports memories involve college hoops, usually during March, when every waking moment is spent thinking about March Madness.



When do conference tourney losses help?

Posted: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:30 PM
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Nobody wants to lose a game. But can losing early on in your conference tournament actually be a good thing?

Louisville would like to think so. So would Final Four darkhorses Connecticut and Notre Dame. All three were upset in the Big East Tournament on Thursday, and, as at-large locks, now turn their attention to the NCAA Tournament next week. They can rest their players, work out some kinks and focus on possible first-round opponents.

More importantly, unless you’re a bubble team that must keep playing to earn that automatic bid, winning the conference tournament isn’t a clear indicator of Big Dance success, either. Just because you're riding a winning streak doesn't mean much.

Winning the regular-season crown (or sharing it) is far more important.

Here's how regular-season champs and conference champs compare in the NCAA Tournament, since 1998:

  • Regular-season champs who advanced to the Final Four: 25. Tournament champs who reached the Final Four (out of 40 total): 15.
  • Regular-season champs who reached regional finals (out of 80): 49. Tournament champs: 34.
  • Regular-season champs in Sweet 16 (out of 160): 79. Tournament champs: 50.
  • That includes 48 times when a team won the regular-season and tournament titles.

Those numbers were tweaked slightly last season when a host of conference sweeps where Florida, Ohio State, Georgetown, UNC, Kansas and Memphis won regular-season and tournament titles and reached the Elite Eight. UCLA and Oregon were the only Elite Eight teams who didn’t pull it off. Three of the four Final Four teams were regular-season champs. Same with the previous two seasons.

It makes sense, too. Teams that play more consistently over a longer period of time would be more likely to perform well in March. After all, a team can't just get hot when it wants to.

Essentially, regular-season success is a good indicator of teams that are tournament ready and could make a run.

Now, none of that prattling means UConn, Louisville, Notre Dame or any other team that’s been bounced from their conference tourney can’t win. It’s just going to make me think twice about advancing the Cards or Huskies very far in my bracket and take a second look at Wisconsin, Kansas or Texas.

Quick thought on Florida’s Billy Donovan, whose team won’t be going for the three-peat this season. Sounds like Donovan wishes he would’ve taken that Orlando Magic job.

“It’s hard for me to be excited going forward because I don’t see things getting fixed,” Donovan said after losing to Alabama in the SEC Tournament.

“It’s in front of our guys, what it takes to win. For whatever reason, I haven’t brought it out in them. They’re not committed to it. ... I’m not really excited about seeing this group of guys being sophomores.”

Ummm, what NBA jobs will be open this season?

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Losing early in a conference tournament even if the team is highly rated could mean missing the big dance and playing in the NIT instead.  Just ask SMSU(Missouri State)!
Cuse is in with all of the bubble teams losing.  They deserve a make-up call from last year.
What a classless thing for Donovan to say, his freshmen are 18 years old...kids!!!  He needs to take his butt to the NBA where he can be a selfcentered jerks like everyone else there and leave college coaching to those who know how to develop and grow kids into men.
Donovan couldn't take a NBA job if he wanted to, part of his stipulations to get released from the Magic contract is that he couldn't take a NBA job for 4 years.
Mr. Donovan I don't think the soon to be sophomores are really excited about seeing you again also
That's it, coach. There you go. Turn your back on em, you'll show em who's boss.



*eyes rolling*
I find it odd that Billy Donovan would mention his players not being committed. He didn't seem very committed to his team earlier in the year when he flirted with the Orlando Magic job. He doubted them then, and I would bet that caused them not to believe in themselves quite as much as they would have. Practice what you preach Billy.
Coaching at the college level is the LAST chance a coach has to REALLY coach. The NBA is a bunch of gun carrying dope smoking ego-centric thugs. Perhaps Donovan should coach there so if he makes a remark the "star" does not like he would be fired or spit at,
or perhaps shot at coming out of a restaurant.


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