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Mike Miller

Mike Miller has been msnbc.com's college basketball editor since 2003. It's a position he relishes; no wonder considering he transferred to Kansas to watch Paul Pierce play. Most of his favorite sports memories involve college hoops, usually during March, when every waking moment is spent thinking about March Madness.



1 seeds are UCLA, Memphis, Carolina and ...

Posted: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:44 PM
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Tough break Tennessee. You were this close to a No. 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament.

Entering Saturday, every projection (NBC, ESPN, SI, CBS, Fox, bracketography, you name it) had UCLA, Memphis, North Carolina and Tennessee as No. 1 seeds. And, since it’s a “what have you done for me lately” kind of world, the Vols’ loss to Arkansas in the SEC Tournament semifinals likely altered the seeding world. (Note: All records are vs. D-I schools; that's what the committee looks at.)

Is it fair that Tennessee (28-4, atop the RPI for weeks), with its 11 wins against RPI top 50, including victories against Memphis, Xavier, West Virginia, Gonzaga and Vandy, among others, should suffer as such? Probably not. But the Vols are probably headed to a No. 2 seed.

In all likelihood, it just means the NCAA Tournament seeding committee can settle on their top teams Saturday night. Here’s how (RPI numbers will be are updated through Sunday).

UCLA’s sweep of the Pac-10 regular-season and conference tournament titles cemented it as a 1 seed. Its win against Stanford was its 6th against the RPI top 25 and 11th against the RPI top 50. No matter how close the Bruins’ wins are, the overall record (30-3, RPI 4) is about as impressive as it gets.

Memphis pulled off the sweep for the third-straight season by pummeling Tulsa. The Tigers (33-1, RPI 3) didn’t run through the same caliber of league, but it’s impossible to overlook their non-conference wins against UConn, Georgetown, Oklahoma, Gonzaga and Arizona. Consider them the third No. 1 seed overall.

And, regardless of what happens in the ACC Tournament final, North Carolina will be a No. 1 seed. The Heels (31-2, RPI 2) are 9-1 against the RPI top 50, with victories against Duke, Kentucky, Kent State, Davidson and Miami. That’s not as impressive of a résumé as UCLA or Memphis, but UNC passes what Jay Bilas would call the “eye test.” It looks like one of the nation’s best teams. It’ll be seeded as such.

That’s three top seeds. Who gets the last spot?

Georgetown (27-5, RPI 8) might’ve had an argument with a Big East Tournament title to go with its regular-season crown, but losing to Pitt sunk the Hoyas. (To which they should say big deal. They made the Final Four as a 2 seed last year and could mimic that again.)

It won’t be Duke. The Devils (27-5, RPI 6) do have impressive non-conference wins against Wisconsin, Marquette and Davidson, but are 6-3 against the RPI top 50 and are 8-4 in their last 12 games. UCLA, UNC and Memphis are 11-1 in their last 12. That doesn’t stack up to the other 1s.

Count out Wisconsin, too. The Badgers (28-4, RPI 11) should pull off the Big Ten sweep, which is exactly what Ohio State did last season as a No. 1 seed. And they’re 11-1 in their last 12 games, which should boost the profile even more. But Wisconsin’s just 6-4 against the RPI top 50, which hurts. More damning is the perception around the Badgers. They don’t blow teams out, they just win. Would it help to beat Indiana instead of Illinois in the Big Ten title game? Probably. But the committee will have likely made up their mind about Wisconsin by then anyway.

That leaves, as you might expect, Kansas and Texas.

By all rights, it should be the Longhorns (27-5, RPI 5). They beat Kansas at home a month ago and also monster have wins against UCLA and Tennessee (which gives 'em an edge against the Vols), not to mention Oklahoma (thrice), Texas A&M, Saint Mary’s and Baylor. They’re 11-3 against the RPI top 50, are 11-1 in their last 12 games and could pull off the Big 12 sweep on Sunday by beating Kansas (again) in the tourney final.

Yet there’s the rub. Kansas (29-3, RPI 7) has been a team tagged for the Final Four all season. Bilas talked Saturday morning about how the Jayhawks, along with UCLA, Memphis and UNC, would be his top 4. They win big and they look like a Final Four team. But frankly, their résumé just isn’t as good as Texas’ is.

KU’s best win against the RPI is Oklahoma, which Texas has beaten three times. KU has won at USC and Texas A&M, but is that more impressive than at UCLA and a neutral win against Tennessee?

If Texas wins on Sunday, they’re a lock. If Kansas wins on Sunday in Kansas City, it makes those wins a wash, which still leaves Texas as the more impressive No. 1 team.

UCLA, North Carolina, Memphis and Texas are 1s. Tennessee, Kansas, Duke and Wisconsin are 2s. Let ‘em fight it out for the Final Four. And watch out for Pitt.

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Why does Roy Williams always get a free pass?  UNC "looks" like a #1 seed?  Huh?  He got a free pass when he was at Kansas as well although the last seasonal view anyone ever had of Roy at Kansas was sniffling at the press table about how bad he wanted to win for those boys.  He went to UNC and won it all with a team recruited by someone else.  Now that's success and always worth a free pass, don't you think?
One word or 4 letters say it all.  UCLA!!!!!  Toughest schedule in the country,toughest conference in the country,toughest freshman in the country.  To paraphrase his Uncle....Wish we all could be UCLA Bruins.....
I don't get it about UNC either. But then I'm still harboring a grudge again Roy "I'll never leave KS" Williams, the jerk. I think the article is right on about KU tho'. But I think we're better off as a #2 seed whether we win todays match-up with TX or not.
Regarding Kansas vs. Texas, home floor wins are not a wash with neutral floor wins.  If KU wins today, it will trump UT's win over KU back in February.  Not by much, but it will still be better.

Also, does UT really gain much by claiming a win over A&M when they also lost @A&M by 17?  KU won both @A&M, and now against A&M on a neutral floor.

I'm not totally in disagreement with the conclusion that UT deserves the #1 over KU, but I don't think it's as one-sided as this article presents.
Kansas won't make the Final Four no matter what seed they get. They always... I mean ALWAYS choke under pressure.
Waaah waaah waaah, Barbara from Dallas.  Let's see how far your Texas boys get this year.  (Although I'm existing in Texas, I'm a native Kansan through and through!)
This has to be one of the dumbest articles I've had the chance to read. If you really think Kansas wouldn't get a #1 seed with a win over Texas in the Big 12 title game you should find a new career.
Um, the game is in Kansas City...that IS a home game for Kansas.  Take a look at nearly all-blue crowd!  
How does anyone think UNC doesn't deserve a #1 seed?  They only went 31-2 (w/out their first two guards for a good stretch of the season), won the ACC regular season, won the ACC tournament, is rated #2 RPI, beat at least 5 tournament teams, and sport the probable NCAA player of the year.  

I can understand Big 12/Kansas crybabies hard feelings about Roy, esp. Roy winning right after leaving Kansas, but questioning UNC's #1 seed this year is completely silly and a little pathetic.
OK, Texas just lost the Big 12 Championship. Let's see if Mike Miller is right and Texas gets a #1 seed. I highly doubt it.
Ouch. Memories of 2006, when Kansas tied for the Big 12 regular-season title and won the Big 12 Tournament, yet received a No. 4 seed, must have clouded my judgment.
Hey Miller, tell me who you think will make the final 4. That way I'll know who NOT to pick in my bracket.

Thanks bud.
That Texas loss was the best thing for them. I like their chances. They have one of the best point guards in the nation. James is rock-solid, Mason gets better every game, and if Abrams is on for the tourney watch-out. They play in Little Rock, Houston before San Antonio. They could be just like Illinois a few years ago when they played almost all home games on their way to a championship.
are u crazy?? UCLA all the way they have all around talent and have the most experience.  Otherwise Tennessee is another choice
Sometimes, no matter how good a team is or how much talent a team has, how you coach that team could be the difference. Yes, Roy Williams DID leave Kansas for North Carolina and yes he did win a championship with players he didn't recruit, but they didn't win that championship until he got there. He couldn't help it if he inherited a championship team. Tell me, if YOU were a coach of any sport, would you want to inherit a team that could win, or a team that sucked? Don't worry, I'll wait!!!



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