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Mike Miller

Mike Miller has been msnbc.com's college basketball editor since 2003. It's a position he relishes; no wonder considering he transferred to Kansas to watch Paul Pierce play. Most of his favorite sports memories involve college hoops, usually during March, when every waking moment is spent thinking about March Madness.



Who's the best? Let's rank 'em!

Posted: Friday, July 25, 2008 3:26 PM
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Everyone loves rankings. Whether it’s the AP, coaches, the nation’s top colleges, weekend box office results or the best Donkey Kong player ever, people love ‘em.

Especially when it comes to sports rankings.

People want to see how their favorite team or player compares to everyone else. They want to argue about placement, ranking methodology or how they could change. They’ll commiserate about a perceived bias or revel in a result.

And, after 15 installments of ranking the greatest college basketball programs, it was awesome to see ESPN’s Prestige Rankings this week.

For those that haven’t seen it, the simple version is that ESPN weighted 21 categories of hoops success – and failure – and ranked the top 300 teams in what they termed the “modern era,” or when the NCAA tournament expanded to 64 teams for the 1984-85 season.

(There’s far more involved than just that when it comes to breaking everything down, so click here for more.)

Anyway, the results had some surprises – it was a small surprise to see Michigan State out of the top 10 and seeing St. John’s still in the top 40 – but after culling all the numbers for my rankings, not a lot.

As for everyone else on the net, the reaction was mostly small grumblings, but not much more.

The biggest gripe – not surprisingly – was Duke at No. 1. There was mention of ESPN just wanting to focus attention on their TV coverage or hype up Duke and Carolina.

But that’s just the nature of rankings. People take issue with your methodology or the parameters (in ESPN’s case, the era involved) and cut loose.

Still, that’s the point, right? Get people reading and talking about it? That’s the best part of rankings, no matter how they might fall.

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If you are going to discuss the greatest "program" try looking at what they accomplished without their best coach (ie. UCLA with no Wooden, UK with no Rupp etc.)  That would be the measure for the best "program", a look at how they sustained success after the great ones built the program.
Actually MSU tied the Hoyas in total points but Georgetown was given the nod over the Spartans based on a slightly greater winning percentage(.687 to .668) for the time period covered. Whatever. 15 in yours 11 in theirs...give it a few more years and MSU will be higher in both.
i can't understand why the university of memphis is not and will not be in this top 25 all-time programs.go back and look at the history of this basketball program. i think the boat has been missed here.


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